Panglossian Rally 2008
Route Card 2 Answers
Panglossian Rally 2008 Route Cards & Solutions
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104Peter BoothE4005551 6 3 5 281 0      
105Fred GallagherE4011941 7 3 5 281 00      
106Peter HarbordE5005547 7 3 5 281 0      
108Philip RobbinsM9332127 7 3 5 281 9771 21 5 0 3 5 Answer to RC 2 does not include the double arrow in GS 98 70. If this is meant to be included then answer will be 5. Answer to RC 10 does not include the 2 crossings of the dissused railway in GS 06 67. if these are to be included then answer will be 7 crossings in total.
109Warren ChmuraN3210332 7 4 3 281 0      
110Brian JohnsonM42065446 4 5 5 281 0 Replace with Answer 6 Replace with Answer 7 Replace with Answer 8 Replace with Answer 9 Replace with Answer 10 
111Clive HodgsonE3005320 7 4 4 281 0      
112James NewbouldE1002135 6 6 4 312 0      
113Andrew FishN3004017 6 5 4 281 0      
115Geoff MastermanE3003910 6 3 4 281 0      
119Martin MooreE3005334 7 7 5 281 0,7      RC5 - The 7 of 73 just breaks the white in GS0073
121Arwel JonesN4313349 7 5 5 281 6,0      
122Steve TurnbullE5003327 7 5 5 281 0      
126Steve BarberM10021129 7 5 5 281 0 21 5 0 3 5 Possible shorter route through Llannerch Hall in GS0572 then RC7=6.
127Graham GilmoreE1003729 7 4 3 164 00,69,99,69,69,98,69,98,70,98,71      
129Gill SweetmanE401748 6 5 5 281 0      
131Shane GlynnM31224115 6 4 4 281 0073 4 6 7 3 2 
132Derek NewbouldE3003333 7 4 3 281 0      
147Neil GouldE102385 5 4 5 164 00      
148Gillian GoodlassM805823 4 3 5 281 0 19 5 0 3 4 
150Gavin RogersM7011717 6 5 4 281 0 21 7 0 3 5 RC7 - As start is defined by a MR and the junction there is a YYW, I have counted this as one Y>W, if this is incorrect then my answer would be 6. I've also used the white through Llannerch Hall as it is shorter than following the Y to the A525
151Catherine BuckE2003955 6 5 5 201 0,0      
154Keith CramN200330 3 5 3 164 0      
156Robert OwenM10421418 7 5 5 281 0 21 5 0 3 5 Q10: BrO's north of Green and in ST ASAPH LLANELWY are difficult to judge, but I've counted them so hope for a lenient interpretation.
159Mark AspinwallE4002940 6 5 5 281 0      
163Keith KingE5004528 7 5 5 281 0      
165Mike BurrowsM902208 7 5 5 281 0 20 5 0 3 5 
166Peter SmithM1021101817 7 5 5 281 0 21 5 0 3 5 
169Mike HopperE000013 Replace with Answer 1 Replace with Answer 2 Replace with Answer 3 Replace with Answer 4 Replace with Answer 5      
171Richard LomaxN3003021 5 3 5 281 00      
173Peter RobertsonM9015653 5 5 5 281 0 21 6 0 3 5 RC1 - have asumed that last plot is on the white (003)and not at the YYW junction (0003). RC10 - have include bridge symbol over Dis Ry and over river in St A LL because symbol is on map, irrespective of Reg 26 RO distinction which presumably only applies to RO questions.
179Brian AmblerN2011526 6 5 4 164 0      
181Janet RobbinsN5003037 7 3 5 281 0      Question 5 - the Grid Line 00 crosses the route but only one of the O's actual breaks the road so this is the answer I have given.
183George CowlingE200586 4 4 3 281 0      
189Peter DaviesE5002627 7 5 5 281 0      
190Glynn HaywardM8013711 6 5 4 281 0 21 5 0 3 5 RC10 Included ancient bridge in St Asaph LLanelwy
192Josie GreenawayE4015513 5 5 5 281 0      
193Brian BanksM7223134 3 5 4 281 0 17 5 0 3 5 assuming bridge labelled bridge on a525 in St asaph
196Alan LargeE1011555 4 5 4 226 6,0      
198Bernie McEneanyE501189 7 3 5 281 0      
201Mark DunkerleyN2002733 5 5 4 164 0      
205Tim HassallE501122 7 3 5 281 0      
209Phillip KingE4004930 6 5 5 281 0      
211Iain TullieM1001303 7 5 5 281 0 21 6 0 3 5 Part 2: I considered the white through the L and H of Llannerch Hallin 0572 'goes', so giving shortest route between plots 4 and 5, joining A525 in GS0472. If you deem this does not 'go', then shortest route would use yellow to the S, giving RC7 as 5 instead of 6. RC10 - no bridge symbol over on y dis rwy in 0667 so not counted. There is one in 0668 (plot 2 onto y) so this is counted. A real challenging one - nearly went to take my contact lenses out and put my glasses on half way through!!
214Colin RichardsonN5003914 7 5 5 281 0      
216Sara RileyE3023267 6 5 5 281 0073      
218Sally BlakeN1005232 5 5 3 164 00      
233Dee Rampling LeeE5005752 7 5 5 281 0      Q5 Actually go through both sides of the "0" the left then the right!
234Richard LakingN5005344 7 3 5 281 0      
235Alan CrabtreeM9061526 7 5 5 281 0 19 6 0 3 4 Well, all I can say is that this was probably one of the most difficult RC's I've ever come across for counting and decision-making. The tiny scale didn't help, but even zooming in to pixel size didn't convince me that there was a white road going through under Llannerch Hall in GS 0572, so I used the yellow to the south of the Golf Course to join the A525. If you see that there is a white through here, it would mean my answer to rc7 would be 7, since there would be one more Y>W. The other difficult decision was on leaving the A525 on the Yellow at GR 060687. At this point the route crosses the dismantled railway, and there is a black mark on the map on the southern side of the Yellow where it joins the Red. Again, I could not justify calling this mark part of a bridge symbol, but if you do, then my answer to rc10 would be 5. My other enemy on this occasion was my wife, who does not understand why I spend so long staring at maps on my computer monitor, and called me for my evening meal and to help her with a difficult job she was doing when I was right in the middle of checking the route and counting ETL's!!!!
236Kevin NugentN100402 3 5 3 277 60      
241Pip SeckerE3053820 6 5 3 281 0      
242David KilleenM91422450 7 5 5 281 0 15 5 0 3 5 
243Julian ChallisN3002942 4 3 4 281 0      
247David KeetleyE2005527 6 5 3 281 0 0      
251Sasha HeriotN3012515 6 5 5 312 0      
254Steve BubbE400285 6 5 5 281 0      RC5: Not sure of the format of the answer. Could be 0 or 00.
257Claire AbreyN2142643 6 5 2  281 00      I am not sure I totally understand what you are requiring for answers 2 and 3. Would it be possible to explain to confirm? Thank you
264Ian CanavanM92232440 7 5 5 281 0 21 5 0 3 6 
265Chris BeanN501836 7 3 5 281 0      I was not positive of the number of > gradients. I went through a total of 5 > symbols, but between map reference 6 and 7 there were two (which I didn't count because I thought they were a >> which appears to be a different count in Reg. 26). Similarly, there are two > close together between 9 and 10, but which had more space, so I counted those. So given the true definition of >, I could see the answers of: 1 (only count the > before MR 1) 3 (count > before MR 1 and between 9 and 10) 5 (count all > we go through on the route). Definitely a fun leg! Chris
268Jonathan ForrestN1003527 4 6 5 226 69,00,73      
270Norman NicolsonN5003021 7 5 5 281 0      
272Nigel ParishE5003612 7 3 5 281 0      
275Francis TindallM82135829 6 5 4 281 0 21 6 0 3 5 Blimey, I thought I got this ok! Only possible issues are I used the white in GS7205, considered a goer and slightly shorter route. Also counted a BrO at 060688.
279Jasmin CongreveN1004142 3 6 5 226 00,00      
283David SmoleyE3002039 5 5 5 312 0      
284Jo WhiteN00154 6 4 4 226 6,0      
287Ron BatemanN5323033 7 5 5 281 0      
290David MiddleditchM8230366 4 5 5 281 00 21 6 0 3 4 
292Rob LunnN202925 6 3 5 226 01690169006968996869699869987098